They seemed like a freedom loving company that supported the right for people to do what they had rights to do. However, again I wasnt really in the market to add anything else from their company to my safe anyway. Wheres the proof they had enough influence to dictate what that organization did. WebRock River Arms AR15 Uppers for Sale at Joe Bob Outfitters! Heres a basic synopsis of the original company; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winchester_Repeating_Arms_Company#Early_history. Or cameras? The lobbyist for the Illinois Firearms Manufacturers Association (IFMA), Jay Keller,traded that groups opposition to the bill in exchange for a carve-out, removing PrairieState firearms manufacturers from the licensing requirements. I look at their site and the parts were available from the same warehouses at a higher price. Maybe the deal was the result ofa lobbyist gone rogue. Just to be clear, they are using the name of the original company of Springfield, but they are not located in the city of Springfield. They can spout their support of the 2A all day, just like Shannon Watts does, but its just words. I dont expect everyone to feel that way. Advertise their treachery. They did what they thought would keep the Criminal Clinton Administration from making a total all out war on guns. IRS records have also been found that shows Reese is on the board of IFMA. A big reason that these rifles shoot so well is the barrel. The barrels Rock River use come from the Connecticut-based company, Wilson Arms (wilsonarms.com). Wilson makes the barrel, contours it and starts the chambering process. AND everyone that the lobbyist represents must be in agreement. Dicks/Field & Stream, Troy, Hexmag, RRA, Springfield Arms, Target, CTD, et al, are making it hard on themselves.They are alienating their demographic. Well, now. Thats bad math and bad leadership. Rock River Arms is a firearms manufacturer located in Colona, Illinois. In fact, I own a Springfield M1A Scout Squad that they gave me free of charge after I encountered a series of malfunctions with an old SAR8. I live in Illinois. Not saying you have to like what happened, but its soviet Illinois, it was going to happen with or without their opposition. Great comment, but I dont think it is enough. I realy liked this ranger officer mogel all stainless nice looking gun. And dont give me this they have changed nonsense. When I found out that they hire Vets to assemble and test them, it was icing on the cake and I got one for low $400s. Im sorry, I mean they would ask after putting you and your fliers in the dumpster. I would say that Ruger has done more to support the 2A than all other companies combined. Springfields crime here is they didnt immediately counter the IFMA when the IFMA dropped opposition to a bill. Join up with other interest groups if common goals can be found. Was very interested in this new pistol too as a possible single-stack semi-auto alternative to my J-frame. A whole lot of gun owners see the deal as a sell-out. Well, said. The bills author was (mostly) Rugers attorneys. No sane company would move in to Illinois unless it was to curry political favor in Chicago as Boeing moving their HQ (no production) did. Rock River Arms earned their reputation by manufacturing some of the most accurate and reliable semi-auto rifles for the law enforcement and civilian markets. What would you have done differently if you ran SA or RRA with a workforce that is similarly trapped in soviet Illinois and depends on your company staying open and profitable to keep their jobs? As a long-time, dedicated anti-gunner, this wasnt Senator Harmons first legislative rodeo. No Springfield guns for me. Olympic Arms continued this legacy with its OA-93, OA-96 and OA-98 models. Should have just stuck to the point that hey, you can do anything you want to our dealers as long as you leave us out of it. Springfield could have fought thisor vocally opposed it on its way to potential passage. A CEO that listens to the customer. It might not have, but then again, if Senator Harmon didnt think it wouldnt have gotten himthat last vote or two he needed, he wouldnthave offered the deal. Huh? This is going to be really bad for RRA and Springfield. Instead, we were undercut by aself-serving supposed ally. Find gray, black, tan, alpine and other finishes on these .223 Rem / 5.56mm, .450 Bushmaster or 6.8 SPC chambered rifles. So many good options, why buy from jackasses. They rebrand the HS2000 as the XD and jack up the price $200. This Modern Sporting Rifle is built with a carbine-length gas system with a low-profile gas black to efficiently redirect propellant gases. The rights of citizens that theyve agreed to negotiate away will NEVER be restored. Anyway, at least for now, I will bide my time and see if Springfield repents and takes positive actions to atone for their irrational IL acts. Hopefully this boycott will pass over with minimal job loss to the common machinist. They have a good ongoing business, why jeopardize it? Personally hate to hear whenever CEOs or head honchos make public decisions costing their employees jobs/money. Had it in the cart at buds ready to buy tomorrow and now it definitely is not going to happen. I dont have anything from either of the turncoat manufacturers and based on their actions, I never will. Never sold out to foreign companies or parts sources or manufacturing or skimped on quality control. Up yours Springfield! Rock River Arms had one seat. Wasnt there big stink couple years ago about so called kitchen table FFLs not realy conducting business for living and just getting wholesale pricing on guns for themselves and their family members? Dont forget about the Ruger, Smith and Wesson sellout.. Springfield Armory today is a strong supporter of everything 2A. Maybe there is a Mrs. Reese or someone or something burning cash on the side (gambling, drugs, who knows) that is consuming profit faster than SA can generate it. Post interesting results everywhere. But theyve already heard from their customers about the IFMA sell-out. Bullshit. They were charging $100 for a 30 round mag during the panic. Screw them. F$&@ Ruger too! I have talked to people in person in TN that were overjoyed at having Beretta move there. Cant this fool see how much this is going to hes going to hurt his own pocketbook for this tiny edge? If CTD notices panic buying, shuts down their site and reprices everything, thats their right. If you are willing to do 9mm, check out an Honor Guard. Rock River Arms has my first AR was a rock river arms rrage. Either dont have any or I overpay to have the stock and have it at a price that everyone individual doesnt want to buy the whole lot at once. Im not selling it because of this cluster, but Im not buying from RRA again either. The Reese clan has done dirty deals before, got busted too, http://www.upi.com/Archives/1989/03/16/Salvador-based-Army-colonel-indicted-on-bribery-charges/5406606027600/, RRA sells to NY LE supporting the SAFE act, which is trying to put a vet away for 21 years for having 17rd mags (no gun, just mags), http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2017/04/veteran_faces_21_years_in_prison_for_possession_of_pistol_magazines.html. RRA and Mr Larson are the only ones who can make a reliable AR-10. In my collection i have a M1A, a Socom 16, a XDM in 45 and a XDmod2 in 9mm. Defending Your Legacy is obviously just a marketing slogan for Springfield. They did what they had to do to stay profitable just like companies in Kalifornia and NewYork and liberal bastions.. Enjoy shooting it, and the second one if you buy one. Henry and Ruger for the win. COPYRIGHT 2021, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM. Great grip and trigger. Tony- IFMA is SAs and RRAs lobbying firm(as opposed to an existing firm that SA hired. The bills author was Dianne Feinstein (D-CA). * How to order a firearm: See The Guide. Tennessee welcomed Beretta with open arms and the employment of a lot a lot of people in well-paying jobs. You shouldve made that decision because it is a piece of garbage, not because of this hysterical article. If this bill actually passes, I think the hit should be pretty severe. That is sooo repetitious! Shocking I know. Rock Bolt Gun Rbg-1s Starting At $4,450. My favorites in their calibers, cherished in my collections. Thats bad, dont get me wrong. Even being on this site makes you a hypocrite because TTAG regularly advertised for Glock, S&W and Springfield. AR-15 Parts. My 1911 search continues and Ill never purchase a Springfield. Audits of the players, including the lobbyist and relevant politicians, and FOIAs or something for pending investigations against all the same could prove enlightening. But when you have a muti million dollar company thats set up in a state thats you cant just pick up and move then you do what you have to do to survive. They will now go to the top so I can wear them out and use the warranty. Henry? Meanwhile, over at the Rock River booth at the NRA convention, owner Chuck Larson has professed innocence in the matter. Ruger was making superior quality products using totally American resources. Until we destroy that party America will continue to be destroyed from within. Didnt you read this article? It is the fault of the people in Illinois. Taurus? Nobody moves a company to New York (Remington has moved most out). People Of The Gun have long memories. is like a chicken voting for Colonel Sanders. (Im a 30 yr Vet). I am sure you do not mean Nissan or Beretta both of which picked up and moved to Tennessee for their headquarters (as well as many other companies). Expect deep, deep discounts on that warehouse full of XD-Es and Saints they were hoping to sell this summer. If theres something worse than a fanboy, its a fanboy fudd. If these dam gun man. I cant imagine the CEOs of those two companies werent in the loop on these negotiations. Bonus was it was stainless frame and made in the USA. The Springfields looked to be a good value. Boom. Not to mention that when S&W colluded with Clinton they were owned by the British engineering firm Tomkins. Ruger, S&W, Springfield, Rock River, Ive seen people complain about Glock and Colt, Hex Mag, and about a dozen more. Did you expect anything less than shady from the Illinois legislature? What flavor is it, and how much do you want? Like a shrewd negotiator, Harmonhappily added a manufacturer and big box retailer carve-out to the bill so he couldcobble together the last few votes he needed to get it through the Senate. And IFMA successfully lobbied and got a manufactures exemption this bill . I think it was meant to be used with gloves on only. Theyve earned back the support of 2A advocates, imo. He supported this legislation, (by not opposing it) that LIMITS CIVILIANS TO 9 FIREARM TRANSFERS PER YEAR!!!! IFMAs Keller testified in March at the Illinois Senate Judiciary committee of his willingness to consider dropping the lobbying groupsopposition to the bill if his clients were exempted. Thanks a bunch pricks! Last Updated. Yes, that is the cloud which is usually much larger than the silver lining. I hope they go out of business and leave the dishonesty to our opponents. WebRock River Arms is a firearms manufacturer that produces a variety of rifles, pistols, and parts for civilian, law enforcement, and military markets. Even cosmetologists and lawyers. I would start negotiating with one of those for manufacturing space and move my entire operation to a gun-friendly climate. In the end, the timing proved fortuitous to all involved. These lobbyists arent in business to protect gun owners or the Second Amendment. My SA 1911 Loaded Target has been my favorite pistol since I bought it last year. So how is screwing your customer base over a sound business strategy? Thank you for bringing this issue to the forefront. Rock solid performer. Well after reading this and let me add no love for blue Illinois my days with SA are over. Any combination of buying or selling that exceeds 9 is a crime if youre not a dealer. With support like that, who needs Everytown? An American voting for a Democrat The RBG-1S is available in .308 Win./7.62x51 and 6.5 Creedmoor, with a 20-, 22- or 24-inch barrel, and a black, green or tan stock. No offense intended. Huh? However, if youre willing to spend a little extra money on your rifle, Rock River Arms is definitely worth considering. Never, ever. Rock River Arms sent me a 6.5 Creedmoor rifle with a tan stock and 24-inch barrel for testing. Their entire C Suite should resign and they need to prove themselves. If workers still want a job, its a reasonable commute. The Ruger is berween $6-700. RRA donated money as well I think they knew about stuff going on, but want to pretend they did not. No guilt trip on my hip. I imagine that there will be a few FFLs leaving IL. Springfield, on the other hand, has gone silent. Smith and Wessons deal with the Klinton regime also brought us the infamous and deplorable hillary hole internal lock. They mustve been channeling Bill Ruger. (3) Rock River Arms LAR-15 Tactical CAR A4 223 Remington/5.56 NATO Carbine $ 684.99. Free Shipping On Most Rifles, Upper Halves And Complete Lower Halves. Id say they are a step above most other production 1911s. Any I have to ask WHY? Oh, hell no, he told me. Smith and Ruger more than compensated for erroneous thinking. But thats only a fraction of his treachery. Sure, the majority will be DOA, but blue and swing states will see this get passed using this an example of good gun control that even firearms companies support. 2) One of the Resses got caught doing something bad again, and a deal was reached to help anti-2nd forces in exchange for an investigation going away. This story is libel. If your going to bash or boycott one then bash and boycott all. Other places have them for $200.00. Not saying you have to like what happened, but its soviet Illinois, it was going to happen with or without their opposition. Illinois cant shut down a business that way No there is no way around it, RRA and Springfield decided their Illinois customers where not worth the trouble. Ruger sold us out on the 94 AWB and it is well documented. The plant where that rifle is made revitalized the area n which it is made. Especially ones outside Chiraq. The ATH V2 comes with an 18-inch, stainless steel, But I wont EVER support a company who actively supports an infringement of any kind. Ben Franklin once said, If we do not hang together, we shall surely hang separately.. I only want American Made firearms like Henry & Ruger. With the Hillarys loss there is no longer a looming gun ban on the horizon and the firearm industry and market is facing a correction. thats the one ive just stopped considering. Make this a massive intractable mess. The Ceo needs to retire, and everyone on the upper levels canned to. Apparently, John Smith isnt an advocate of the constitution or specifically the second amendment. Why does Ruger all of the sudden get a pass on treachery? Did SA forget that this isnt 1988 anymore and that the internet exists? Sellouts. So I have to ask. Bill Ruger retired from the company in 2000 and died in 2002. If that hurts a company whos sold you out, good. Dont own a Springfield anything and now never will. If signed into law, the bill his lobbyist declined to oppose will drive many dealers out of business with its onerous and expensive restrictions and requirements. Plenty of folks out there shooting LWRC, ArmaLite, DPMS who would argue theirs are reliable, accurate, & mo betta too. Ive never had an issue with CTD in a decade. An xdm9 and a 1911 loaded. So I went on a buying spree. Mostly out of states with onerous laws and heavy taxation. RRA should be punished too. And now a sell out. Illinoying is pushing to get shut down. Are you reading-impaired? No they dont. Last trip to the range, ran a couple hundred rounds of all flavors through it without an FTE/FTF. WARNING: The products offered for sale on this website can expose you to chemicals which are known to the State We are not obligated to honor a price that is in print or an error. Why does anyone ever even try to work with them? If it is a 16" it is 5.56, which the Entry Tactical is. I would sell the xd .45 and the xdm 9mm I already have but I dont think there is much of a market for them now. How did the unveiling of the new pistol go? Fuck Ruger as well. WebRock River Arms LAR-15 Lightweight Mountain Rifle | MT1800X 5.56 NATO (223 Rem), 16" Chrome-Moly Lightweight BBL, Semi-Automatic, 6-Position Black Stock, Black Finish, RRA Lightweight, 30+1 Rds. Easy there tough guy. when supply cant meet demand, then the price increases.. this draws more suppliers into the market to meet demand and you see the price decrease. Cant this fool see how much this is going to be used with gloves on only these. 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